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Let's be honest. The perks and look of elves are better than all other RP races, at least if you like stealthy/magic characters.

Humans are good fighters and mages, but don't have the craftsmanship of elves.
Dwarves are the best warriors and have good weapons and armour, but they're just not as agile and graceful.
Orcs? On one side, the elves. Great archers, mages and rogues, they forge powerful magic artifacts. On the other, orcs. They have a strict hierarchy and mentality, and are neither agile nor classy, they don't craft good weapons. (at least that applies in LOTR and most med-fantasy).
Thus, elves rule.

JohntheWarden wrote:
Let's be honest. The perks and look of elves are better than all other RP races, at least if you like stealthy/magic characters.

Humans are good fighters and mages, but don't have the craftsmanship of elves.
Dwarves are the best warriors and have good weapons and armour, but they're just not as agile and graceful.
Orcs? On one side, the elves. Great archers, mages and rogues, they forge powerful magic artifacts. On the other, orcs. They have a strict hierarchy and mentality, and are neither agile nor classy, they don't craft good weapons. (at least that applies in LOTR and most med-fantasy).
Thus, elves rule.

In a lot of other lores, outside the LOTR franchise, Orcs are the cousins to the elves in one way or the other. In Elder Scrolls, Orcs are the go-to forge-masters. They're incredibly powerful mages, and they're intelligent. The difference is that LOTR painted them as being idiotic brutes, which is not the case. They're a very violent prone race, but that doesn't detract from their intelligence, their moral standings, or their place as powerful mages.
Even in WoW they're considered to be incredibly strategical, powerful magic users, and a very serious threat.
I think LOTR has done a horrible job of painting the "generic" idea that orcs are dumb and brutal "creatures" instead of being similar in kin to the rest of the other races.

I don't think Elves are at all even close to the "best" fantasy race, but they are the most prevelantly used due to their extremely "alluring" personifications in most series. I write quite a few elves, I love the race for what it is, but I wouldn't go saying it's the best.

PrettySir wrote:
I think LOTR has done a horrible job of painting the "generic" idea that orcs are dumb and brutal "creatures" instead of being similar in kin to the rest of the other races.

Tolkien might be considered "generic" only because he set the standard for what we think of now for both elves and orcs.

In the Elder Scrolls and LOTR orcs are powerful, and even very good weaponsmith for TES. However they're still not very graceful compared to elves, and their strict hierarchy (the Orc fortresses in TES are a good example of it) makes it hard to make good characters out of them.
I still think elves are one of the best if not the best race in fantasy- give me only one which has a society in which mentality evolves, controls magic better than most races, is great at stealth, melee combat, has good crafts (be it simple weapons for normal troops or legendary artifacts) and is graceful.

I dont strictly have "elves" because I decided for various reasons that all the groups in my setting would have their own names, but the "dwarrow" that my main character is are functionally very similar to elves in most ways and in previous iterations were sometimes called Deep-elves. Also I play as elves whenever I can in fiction. My only problem is elves tend to be less, ah, aggressive compared to alot of others (Although thats nowhere near universal of course. Look at elder scrolls.)

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