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nightmqre

For several generations, my father's side of the family has suffered with Chronical back pain. My dad's dad's dad had it, my dad's dad has it, and my dad has it. And unfortunately, me slipping on ice last year and damaging my tail bone set off my back pain </3.

What is it?

Chronical back pain is where a person has constant back pain that will stick with them for the rest of their lives.

For me, sometimes it's worse some days than it is others, certain things can set it off, etc.

Recently, I've been suffering pretty badly. I'm doing as much as I can to help, but it never seems to be enough

I've tried:
  • Heat pads-
  • Heat spray
  • My dad's support belt
  • Warm + hot baths

And I'm trying to constatly take medicine for the pain. However, it always makes me feel like crap and I really don't want to go through that every four hours or so, especially with school.

Neither me or my parents are sure on what else to do to help ease the pain. Im just hoping someone on here has any ideas?

EDIT: The last time I went to doctor about it (two, three months ago) she said it was something to do with the fact that, she I slipped on ice last year and damaged my tail bone (the pain is just above) that something happened to the muscles in my lower back and they were stretched too far and will not return to their normal... Length? She said they were supposed to within the first few months but since they hadn't done so yet that was probably the cause for setting off the pain. She didn't suggest any treatments though, so I'm unsure of what to do.
JustAGuy

I think you replied to my thing asking about my own back pain, although mine only comes like once a month for like a day, it hurts like hell. I've found for me popping it, or having someone pop it for me makes the pain go away for a while
nightmqre Topic Starter

JustAGuy wrote:
I think you replied to my thing asking about my own back pain, although mine only comes like once a month for like a day, it hurts like hell. I've found for me popping it, or having someone pop it for me makes the pain go away for a while

Ah yeah, I tried that around a week or so ago after my doctor suggested it. It only seemed to cause more trouble for me though :/
JustAGuy

StaticNightmares wrote:
JustAGuy wrote:
I think you replied to my thing asking about my own back pain, although mine only comes like once a month for like a day, it hurts like hell. I've found for me popping it, or having someone pop it for me makes the pain go away for a while

Ah yeah, I tried that around a week or so ago after my doctor suggested it. It only seemed to cause more trouble for me though :/

as much as it might suck, you may want to consider back surgery. It would make life a lot easier for you

or try water therapy- https://www.spine-health.com/wellness/exercise/water-therapy-exercise-program
nightmqre Topic Starter

JustAGuy wrote:
StaticNightmares wrote:
JustAGuy wrote:
I think you replied to my thing asking about my own back pain, although mine only comes like once a month for like a day, it hurts like hell. I've found for me popping it, or having someone pop it for me makes the pain go away for a while

Ah yeah, I tried that around a week or so ago after my doctor suggested it. It only seemed to cause more trouble for me though :/

as much as it might suck, you may want to consider back surgery. It would make life a lot easier for you

or try water therapy- https://www.spine-health.com/wellness/exercise/water-therapy-exercise-program

I'll have to give water therapy a shot. I'd rather try to leave back surgery as a last resort ^^;
First: try to find out what's causing it. Since it runs in your family, I'd suggest being sure to tell that detail to a doctor. Sometimes an apparent external cause is only actually triggering an internal issue.

What it is will influence what helps to ease it. You might just need the right type of support. You might have to rely on pain pills for life. You might need massages or alignment on a regular basis. You might actually need surgery.
Darion (played anonymously)

You might give Bowen Therapy or Naturopathic medicine a try.
An inversion table might help too. We got one after a chiropractor recommended it and I've cut my visits to the chiropractor from once every month or two, to about once a year.
Darion wrote:
You might give Bowen Therapy or Naturopathic medicine a try.
Naturopathy is just what medieval folks could have imagined vaccines to be. Heck, it's even based in some of those incredibly old and thoroughly disproven ideas. ^^;

Not familiar with Bowen Therapy, but first glance, seems like it's based in the same ideas as massage and accupressure, which isn't wholly bad. Limited, but definitely has its uses.
Ben Moderator

Hello everyone!

I just wanted to pop in and say that we need to be very careful when giving one another advice about medical conditions. This thread is fine, and it's great to offer suggestions and potential solutions, but especially if you're suggesting "alternative" medicine or invasive medical procedures such as surgery, be VERY careful.

For my part, I'm going to agree with folks who are saying talk to a doctor. My advice is to start with a primary care physician and see what kind of specialist they recommend. They might be able to recommend you to a chiropractor and avoid something more invasive. But do it through a doctor. Chiropractic care, as a profession, has a mixed reputation.

Do NOT consider surgery without talking to medical professionals (independent of surgical procedure providers if you're in a for profit system like the U.S) first.

If you want to talk to a professional who approaches things from a more holistic angle, then see if you can find an osteopathic doctor, they approach things with a that kind of philosophy but are also medical professionals so you are way less likely to encounter a complete quack.
Ben wrote:
Chiropractic care, as a profession, has a mixed reputation.

True enough! I've been to 5 different ones over the course of about 20 years. 1 was terrible and I think he did more harm than good, 2 were mediocre, and only 2 were really excellent (their goal being to "not see me anymore!").
Darion (played anonymously)

Novalyyn wrote:
Darion wrote:
You might give Bowen Therapy or Naturopathic medicine a try.
Naturopathy is just what medieval folks could have imagined vaccines to be. Heck, it's even based in some of those incredibly old and thoroughly disproven ideas. ^^;

Not familiar with Bowen Therapy, but first glance, seems like it's based in the same ideas as massage and accupressure, which isn't wholly bad. Limited, but definitely has its uses.

I am merely suggesting more natural methods that have helped me and others I know greatly. Bowen Therapy is similar to Massage Therapy or Acupuncture and I have found it to be incredibly helpful with pain, swelling and stiffness.

There is also a real practiced and educated profession in Naturopathic
Medicine. I have unfortunately many health issues and I have visited and tried just about every medicinal practice and technique, and the one that I have found the most effective has been professional Naturopathic Medicine. It is also far from disproven, although I'm not debating or arguing, merely hoping to open minds :)
Do with this information as you will. I hope some find this useful.


Naturopathic Medicine
Naturopathic medicine is a distinct primary health care profession, emphasizing prevention, treatment, and optimal
health through the use of therapeutic methods and substances that encourage individuals’ inherent self-healing
process. The practice of naturopathic medicine includes modern and traditional, scientific, and empirical methods.

The following principles are the foundation of naturopathic medical practice:
The Healing Power of Nature (Vis Medicatrix Naturae): Naturopathic medicine recognizes an inherent self-healing process in people that is ordered and intelligent. Naturopathic physicians act to identify and remove obstacles to healing and recovery, and to facilitate and augment this inherent self-healing process.

Identify and Treat the Causes (Tolle Causam): The naturopathic physician seeks to identify and remove the underlying causes of illness rather than to merely eliminate or suppress symptoms.

First Do No Harm (Primum Non Nocere): Naturopathic physicians follow three guidelines to avoid harming the patient:
Utilize methods and medicinal substances which minimize the risk of harmful side effects, using the least force necessary to diagnose and treat;
Avoid when possible the harmful suppression of symptoms; and
Acknowledge, respect, and work with individuals’ self-healing process.

Doctor as Teacher (Docere): Naturopathic physicians educate their patients and encourage self-responsibility for health. They also recognize and employ the therapeutic potential of the doctor-patient relationship.

Treat the Whole Person: Naturopathic physicians treat each patient by taking into account individual physical, mental, emotional, genetic, environmental, social, and other factors. Since total health also includes spiritual health, naturopathic physicians encourage individuals to pursue their personal spiritual development.

Prevention: Naturopathic physicians emphasize the prevention of disease by assessing risk factors, heredity and susceptibility to disease, and by making appropriate interventions in partnership with their patients to prevent illness.

NATUROPATHIC PRACTICE
Naturopathic practice includes the following diagnostic and therapeutic modalities: clinical and laboratory diagnostic testing, nutritional medicine, botanical medicine, naturopathic physical medicine (including naturopathic manipulative therapy), public health measures, hygiene, counseling, minor surgery, homeopathy, acupuncture, prescription medication, intravenous and injection therapy, and naturopathic obstetrics (natural childbirth).
https://www.naturopathic.org/content.asp?contentid=59
Since you mention that it runs in your family, I suggest going to your doctor and ask them what you can do to easen your pains. Even if you maybe won’t be able to get a diagnose, maybe they will still be able to give you some exercises or medication that fits you, specifically. c:
I've had chronic pain in most of my upper body, including parts of my back, for over half my life now, and the best advice I can give you is to go to your primary care physician and try to figure out what's causing it. Without knowing the cause, trying different treatments can actually made the pain and/or the underlying condition worse. Approaching pain that is neurological in origin with treatments meant for musculoskeletal pain, for example, won't be very effective. That being said, the path to reducing chronic pain is different for everyone. I don't know what your treatment will look like, but I would advise you to leave surgery as an absolute last resort. Back surgery is a tricky thing, and in some cases it can make things infinitely worse, though in others it can be successful. With some conditions it's even recommended against, because the origin of the pain isn't something a surgeon can do much about. Again, it all comes down to the underlying cause.
Hades_

Malachite wrote:
I've had chronic pain in most of my upper body, including parts of my back, for over half my life now, and the best advice I can give you is to go to your primary care physician and try to figure out what's causing it. Without knowing the cause, trying different treatments can actually made the pain and/or the underlying condition worse. Approaching pain that is neurological in origin with treatments meant for musculoskeletal pain, for example, won't be very effective. That being said, the path to reducing chronic pain is different for everyone. I don't know what your treatment will look like, but I would advise you to leave surgery as an absolute last resort. Back surgery is a tricky thing, and in some cases it can make things infinitely worse, though in others it can be successful. With some conditions it's even recommended against, because the origin of the pain isn't something a surgeon can do much about. Again, it all comes down to the underlying cause.

Please listen to this advice.

If nothing else, perhaps try alternating hot and cold treatment. Sometimes cold will do better than heat. However, I cannot implore you enough to seek a medical professional. The human spine is far too tricky for anyone on the internet, who isn't a medical professional looking thoroughly at your body through x-rays and through trained eyes, no one here will be able to properly help you. There could be so many reasons for the pain you're in, and leaving it untreated by a professional could lead to even more dangerous problems down the road.

I waited too long with my own chronic back pain. I waited until I had an episode of pain spike so badly that I could not physically breathe without crying out in pain. Please, for your own health, seek medical assistance before trying any kind of "home remedies" or taking other advice from people online who are not medical professionals. I understand that the pain makes you feel helpless, especially when you're suffering and all you want is for it to go away. Even for just a little while. It's not fun, but you're extremely young to ignore these kinds of signs.
Like other people have already posted, I would suggest consulting a doctor, a physiotherapist or another relevant medical expert. I don't have chronical back pain, but I do know a thing or 15 about having back pain, in my case often followed by a severe headache. What has helped me over time has been a mix of treatments and exercise, so that would be my suggestion to you.

Personally, I had a good experience with getting treatment once a week/every other week and then the medical professional would tailor a short exercise program for me to do every day, in order to strengthen my back and likely improve some flexibility too. If you can't afford something like that(I was lucky my parents' insurance covered 100% back then), then I can highly recommend swimming. Get a subscription to a local pool, that's how it works here anyway, go 2-3 times a week in the beginning. The smart people(my doctor) said that casual swimming can't cause any harm, saying that it's hard to get injured, so in his words it could either help or do nothing at all. It might be worth a try, even though it's not immediate relief?
As I said, I don't have any experience with your exact condition, so I would say see a doctor. But I hope this might be helpful anyway.

I hope you feel better soon!
nightmqre Topic Starter

I forgot to add this and probably should have said sooner (though I've had some really bad spikes recently and been really busy)

But the last time I went to doctor about it (two, three months ago) she said it was something to do with the fact that, she I slipped on ice last year and damaged my tail bone (the pain is just above) that something happened to the muscles in my lower back and they were stretched too far and will not return to their normal... Length? She said they were supposed to within the first few months but since they hadn't done so yet that was probably the cause for setting off the pain. She didn't suggest any treatments though, so I'm unsure of what to do.

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