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I've come across some users using AI art for oc's or in other ways, and I wish there was a way to not see these accounts/characters. I was thinking maybe adding a setting either in character creation or on account settings saying if your account uses AI. With this we could have have a flag saying we don't want to see roleplay ads, or accounts of people marked as AI users? It could even be as simple as a warning on a character that pops up alongside a character containing NSFW, Strong Language, or gore? This is not very well thought out, but just a thought I had and would love to hear other users on RPR's input on the idea.

Your suggestion is totally legit, but likely to generate emotional messages.

Look here

I don't want to blame you, just be aware that 'AI generated things' is a very delicate topic here on the forums. Look over the different posts done

I'm kinda surprised its allowed at all! I know there's only so much a site can do, but I remember when Artbreeder (is that what it was called?) was around and let you facebash things (in hindsight I imagine it was a kinda primitive AI) and that got to the point where we were discouraged from using it on site iirc.

Folks are as responsible for their emotions when responding to things about AI, regardless of their stance, as anything else.

I imagine an opt-in box for folks who use AI would be helpful in some capacity both ways, but I'd also worry that people would use it as an excuse to bully people.

I'd not be discouraged from talking about AI slop (it's not art) because some people will get their fee-fees hurt that no one wants to play with them. I'd prefer they move on from the site, but having some way of marking them would be great. As is, I just block every single AI slop user I see - it'd be nice to have a button to flip to not see them in the first place. Blocking them takes time I'd rather put elsewhere.

I've always been frustrated by roleplayers who use stolen or un-sourced images in their profiles since the start of the site, and AI is just another form of that to me. Seeing it so prolific on this site is deeply disheartening, but I acknowledge that there's very little the staff can do on the matter.

I understand that the usage is very appealing to those who feel they don't have the time, ability, or funds to create exactly the thing they want, and I feel for them, but using AI will never be the answer. I respect and appreciate people who draw anyway despite a lack of confidence infinitely more than I do someone who falls for the allure of giving up creative joy to the AI machine.

I am wording myself as carefully as I can to emphasize that I do not fault people who did use AI and then regretted it, I want to celebrate people relearning how to enjoy creating in their own way again. But I will not tolerate people who acknowledge the harm in AI but expect pity or exceptions. I do wish there was an automated away to avoid arguments with the later while not isolating the former, and 'blocking every AI account I see' means I'll miss out on the people who changed their minds (which are the people I'd like to high five the most. AI usage can be addictive and kicking an addiction deserves major awards)

While I understand the distain for AI, as I personally don't like it either, I don't think there's any realistic way to remove or separate people who use AI from those who don't use AI.

It's an interesting thought experiment, but how would something like that even be accomplished?

You could try to create a system that scans every image and line of text on the website, but that sounds difficult, expensive, and lets not forget very intrusive, I personally wouldn't want something like that on the RPR.

If it does detect the use of AI, then what? Do those people get banned? Are only allowed to interact with certain forums, which would likely need to be created for that exact purpose, or something else? If there is a detection, would there be room for appeals? Or is someone simply permanently marked?

This is also assuming that the detection method is completely accurate, which it realistically wouldn't be perfect. It'll likely miss some things and falsely flag others.

Another possible solution would be to have human moderation scan over every possible instance of AI through a report system, but I don't think anyone wants that. I don't think the moderators want to be bothered to look at an image to go "Yep, that's AI alright." Especially since it's a very personal gripe that people have that's not actually against the website's rules.

Even though many don't like it, it is allowed.

So that means, unless there's an amendment to the rules, you'll have to filter those people out yourself.

I also think that it's worth remembering that the use of AI doesn't inherently make someone a bad person. I think of it the same way I do smoking, smoking is bad and harmful, but it doesn't make the smoker inherently bad. The real problem are the people pushing smoking and profiting off of it at the expense of everyone else.

It's also possible that people don't fully understand the environmental and economic impact of AI.

I actually know a few people who started off either using AI or being pro AI, but have since changed their minds and have made an effort to shift away from using AI, or even learning to draw despite the existence of AI.

I feel this is a situation that's a lot more nuanced than people like to assume, I'm not saying AI is good, I'm just saying most people aren't bad.

I think I saw someone saying something like what I'm about to say, but I forgot who..
But I like the thought of it perhaps being something in your profile settings that you can "opt in" for. Kind of ticking a box if you don’t mind the use of ai. Though how exactly it would show I don't know, but it sort of reminds me of sites where you can opt in if you want to see explicit content and accounts, and if you don’t opt in, you won’t see it or it'll at least give a warning first.
Perhaps kind of like the age thing? You can decide if people who opt in can contact you or not type of thing? Though I don't know how that would work if you're the one about to send them a message

Just like.. if I have my messages set to 18+ and I send a message to someone who is actually under 18, but doesn't have their settings to their age group.. does the message go through?? I should prolly ask that in it's own topic tbh lol

This is what I meant and I feel sad about it.

I don't want to discuss whether somebody is capable of assuming emotions or not. I don't want to blame or point at someone using or not AI.
The use of artificial intelligence has become almost normal and daily, even if you search for a word or a synonym, search engines use AI to give you an answer. Am I allowed to read? Of course I am, but I have to check "Use of AI" in a box.
I know it's not comparable to creative art, but yet...
I'm not excusing the disrespectful use of a machine to flood a forum with effortless creations.
I'm only pointing at a witch hunt going on. No it's not funny to be replaced by a machine. Even my job is somehow in danger with AI. But as RoundTableKing said, does it make someone bad because he uses something some other dislikes. This discussion will start over again with any invention. The FM Radio was an 'instrument of the devil, spreading immoral texts' called music, TV same, Internet same, AI.. same. As said, I'm not excusing disrespectful use of AI, but tolerance is a virtue. Talking about music, you know those noises one can yell along with, AI made music is flooding the net...

This said, you can all block me, ban me, throw me into the next river, I used AI to make a few pictures, even if I can draw.
As I have to check "YES" for the use of AI. Does anyone believe me if I say that I don't write with it? Because I do, as said, AI is used by search engines to find the proper expression or idiom to make my text more living and vibrant. Sorry, but I don't carry Oxford English Encyclopedia with me.

People, the doe is bad!



Please excuse me if ever I hurt someone, it's not meant to judge anyone, I simply don't want anyone to harm another because he uses a disliked application. I'm totally aware that for many people the use of AI is abject and I respect that. Thanks for reading

This is exactly the purpose of asking for a checkbox similar to the language/nudity/violence warnings that we already have for characters. It was also suggested here, some time ago. There's feedback from Kim and at least one moderator in that thread.

I do not understand a single objection I've heard against the suggestion to implement such a box. If we scrape away all ethical concerns about gen-AI, it can be boiled down to something as simple as "it is content that some people do not want to interact with".

If people feel shamed about being prompted to tick such a box, well, that's on them. They can simply choose not to use gen-AI, just like they can choose not to post nudity or gore (or use unsourced/stolen art). It is an active choice that people make. All that is being asked for is an easy way to filter such content out.

No, there's never going to be a completely surefire way to identify gen-AI content. That's why we need to encourage people to engage with it on the honor system, by providing them with an easy way to signpost it. I really appreciate it when people give a heads up in their profile or whatever, because it means I can make an informed decision about whether to engage with them. Adding a box to tick does nothing but make that signposting simpler for everyone!
I completely agree with this. If someone stops using gen-AI and removes AI generated content from their profiles, that's awesome! But if I block them, I'll never know. And they will never be "rewarded" or "forgiven"[1] for making the active choice to stop letting a robot do their hobby for them.

[1] Not to be culturally Christian about it. Rewards/forgiveness is not the point; just the only words I could think of.