The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Ami is straight up not from the Warhammer reality. But it was fun adding her to the universe. And yes, I am still learning the lore. Very rich like World of Warcraft. That's a story for another day...
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
You should read my work. And it is based on prior tps with the universe or variants of it. So yeah... sorry you aren't rhe first warhamner 40k to bring their army for crp?
So all those points I need only provide proof and you sre incorrect. My sheet and website dismantle 90% of this.
Now his paygrade is valid if we are operating under the fandom you are using and it's lore. Could be an au or whatever. But, that isnt my fault for assuming the warhamner 40k was warhammer 40k?
I will make this easy. Since you are intending to force me down this path even putting her name on a leash like she is a dog or slave in the art
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
You should read my work. And it is based on prior tps with the universe or variants of it. So yeah... sorry you aren't rhe first warhamner 40k to bring their army for crp?
So all those points I need only provide proof and you sre incorrect. My sheet and website dismantle 90% of this.
Now his paygrade is valid if we are operating under the fandom you are using and it's lore. Could be an au or whatever. But, that isnt my fault for assuming the warhamner 40k was warhammer 40k?
Girfactor wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Ami is straight up not from the Warhammer reality. But it was fun adding her to the universe. And yes, I am still learning the lore. Very rich like World of Warcraft. That's a story for another day...
His next post makes it clear. I just blocked him as he doesn't see my ocd autonomy or reasons and is intent to peddle that insulting narrative. I dont have time for it. Anyways. Nothing against the rest of you. And I never said it was godmodding. We agreed it isnt. We'll, all but him and his accusations without substance.
Girfactor wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
You should read my work. And it is based on prior tps with the universe or variants of it. So yeah... sorry you aren't rhe first warhamner 40k to bring their army for crp?
So all those points I need only provide proof and you sre incorrect. My sheet and website dismantle 90% of this.
Now his paygrade is valid if we are operating under the fandom you are using and it's lore. Could be an au or whatever. But, that isnt my fault for assuming the warhamner 40k was warhammer 40k?
Same. I made my point. Nothing else to say. Have fun!
The_Diva wrote:
Girfactor wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
You should read my work. And it is based on prior tps with the universe or variants of it. So yeah... sorry you aren't rhe first warhamner 40k to bring their army for crp?
So all those points I need only provide proof and you sre incorrect. My sheet and website dismantle 90% of this.
Now his paygrade is valid if we are operating under the fandom you are using and it's lore. Could be an au or whatever. But, that isnt my fault for assuming the warhamner 40k was warhammer 40k?
Same. I made my point. Nothing else to say. Have fun!
Girfactor wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Girfactor wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
You should read my work. And it is based on prior tps with the universe or variants of it. So yeah... sorry you aren't rhe first warhamner 40k to bring their army for crp?
So all those points I need only provide proof and you sre incorrect. My sheet and website dismantle 90% of this.
Now his paygrade is valid if we are operating under the fandom you are using and it's lore. Could be an au or whatever. But, that isnt my fault for assuming the warhamner 40k was warhammer 40k?
Same. I made my point. Nothing else to say. Have fun!
Issue isnt the character silly. Issue is ignoring my character which only one person did tbf. And sure, anytime you wabt to we can set something up. Just dont try to collarbones my oc, call them subhuman while threatening physical harm or try to decapitate a child and there wont be such ic reactions. I dont think any of my ocs would deal well with racially motivated fascists. They would likely fight.
The_Diva wrote:
Girfactor wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Girfactor wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
You should read my work. And it is based on prior tps with the universe or variants of it. So yeah... sorry you aren't rhe first warhamner 40k to bring their army for crp?
So all those points I need only provide proof and you sre incorrect. My sheet and website dismantle 90% of this.
Now his paygrade is valid if we are operating under the fandom you are using and it's lore. Could be an au or whatever. But, that isnt my fault for assuming the warhamner 40k was warhammer 40k?
Same. I made my point. Nothing else to say. Have fun!
Issue isnt the character silly. Issue is ignoring my character which only one person did tbf. And sure, anytime you wabt to we can set something up. Just dont try to collarbones my oc, call them subhuman while threatening physical harm or try to decapitate a child and there wont be such ic reactions. I dont think any of my ocs would deal well with racially motivated fascists. They would likely fight.
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Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
Ixqueya is not godmodding, and the reason has nothing to do with whether she is powerful, inevitable, or cosmically superior. Godmodding is not defined by scale. It is defined by agency violation. Godmodding occurs when a writer dictates another player’s character’s actions, thoughts, outcomes, injuries, or fate without consent, or when they force narrative resolution that leaves no room for response. Ixqueya does none of this. In fact, her position explicitly avoids it. She does not declare the Imperium harvested in-play. She does not kill, enslave, or overwrite the other characters’ decisions. She does not force the scene to conclude in annihilation. Instead, she recognizes that escalation would collapse into a pre-solved apocalypse she has already played out multiple times, and she refuses to push the narrative there. That refusal is restraint, not abuse. Choosing not to execute an inevitable end-state is the opposite of godmodding.
What is being mistaken for godmodding is actually declared asymmetry plus disengagement. Ixqueya’s lore establishes that, if taken to its logical conclusion, the Imperium cannot meaningfully resist Winterwake. That premise is not sprung mid-scene. It is foundational, documented, and consistent. However, rather than forcing that premise onto the table, Ixqueya’s player explicitly states they are not interested in reenacting that outcome. They are declining the escalation precisely because it would remove meaningful play. Godmodding would be insisting on that outcome regardless of the other writer’s wishes. Ixqueya does the opposite by stepping back from it.
There is also a misunderstanding of what constitutes a valid in-character reaction within Warhammer 40k’s own lore. A Guard general, even a highly decorated one, is not privy to the Emperor’s deepest secrets. The Imperium is built on radical compartmentalization. Knowledge is treated as a liability. Even during the Great Crusade, the Emperor concealed the Webway Project from the Primarchs themselves, including Horus, because disclosure risked destabilizing competing power structures. If demigod sons and the Warmaster were kept ignorant, an Astra Militarum general is categorically outside the circle of trust for existential truths. In 40k, rank grants authority over troops, not access to metaphysical state secrets. A general knows slogans, doctrines, and approved history. They do not know the Emperor’s true nature, the full function of the Golden Throne, the metaphysical economics of souls, or the suppressed contradictions of Imperial theology. Those truths are fragmented across the Custodes, the Mechanicum, the Inquisition, and the Ecclesiarchy, often in mutually incompatible forms.
Because of this, Ixqueya knowing things she “shouldn’t” is not a violation of the setting. It is an ontological threat, which is exactly how Warhammer treats entities that do not belong to its epistemic order. A competent in-character response would be suspicion, fear, escalation, or recognition that this being does not fit Imperial taxonomies. It would not be certainty, domination, or confident dismissal. The Imperium does not function on informed understanding. It functions on ritualized ignorance. A general is trained to obey, not to adjudicate cosmic truth. From that perspective, Ixqueya’s knowledge does not break immersion. It reinforces it.
Finally, it is important to separate character behavior from player misconduct. Ixqueya refusing to submit, refusing assimilation, and refusing to join the Imperium is not godmodding. It is character consistency. Her disdain for the Imperium, her refusal to negotiate from weakness, and her recognition that escalation leads only to a resolved annihilation are all coherent with her established metaphysics. Godmodding would require her to take control of the other characters’ responses or force the apocalypse regardless of consent. She does neither. Instead, she disengages from a narrative path she finds repetitive and creatively dead. That is not a rules violation. It is an informed creative boundary.
In short, Ixqueya is not godmodding because she does not seize agency, does not force outcomes, does not resolve conflicts unilaterally, and does not deny the other writer the ability to respond. What is actually happening is a collision between incompatible power tiers and epistemologies. Labeling that discomfort as godmodding is a misuse of the term, not an accurate diagnosis of the interaction.
Novellaro wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
Ixqueya is not godmodding, and the reason has nothing to do with whether she is powerful, inevitable, or cosmically superior. Godmodding is not defined by scale. It is defined by agency violation. Godmodding occurs when a writer dictates another player’s character’s actions, thoughts, outcomes, injuries, or fate without consent, or when they force narrative resolution that leaves no room for response. Ixqueya does none of this. In fact, her position explicitly avoids it. She does not declare the Imperium harvested in-play. She does not kill, enslave, or overwrite the other characters’ decisions. She does not force the scene to conclude in annihilation. Instead, she recognizes that escalation would collapse into a pre-solved apocalypse she has already played out multiple times, and she refuses to push the narrative there. That refusal is restraint, not abuse. Choosing not to execute an inevitable end-state is the opposite of godmodding.
What is being mistaken for godmodding is actually declared asymmetry plus disengagement. Ixqueya’s lore establishes that, if taken to its logical conclusion, the Imperium cannot meaningfully resist Winterwake. That premise is not sprung mid-scene. It is foundational, documented, and consistent. However, rather than forcing that premise onto the table, Ixqueya’s player explicitly states they are not interested in reenacting that outcome. They are declining the escalation precisely because it would remove meaningful play. Godmodding would be insisting on that outcome regardless of the other writer’s wishes. Ixqueya does the opposite by stepping back from it.
There is also a misunderstanding of what constitutes a valid in-character reaction within Warhammer 40k’s own lore. A Guard general, even a highly decorated one, is not privy to the Emperor’s deepest secrets. The Imperium is built on radical compartmentalization. Knowledge is treated as a liability. Even during the Great Crusade, the Emperor concealed the Webway Project from the Primarchs themselves, including Horus, because disclosure risked destabilizing competing power structures. If demigod sons and the Warmaster were kept ignorant, an Astra Militarum general is categorically outside the circle of trust for existential truths. In 40k, rank grants authority over troops, not access to metaphysical state secrets. A general knows slogans, doctrines, and approved history. They do not know the Emperor’s true nature, the full function of the Golden Throne, the metaphysical economics of souls, or the suppressed contradictions of Imperial theology. Those truths are fragmented across the Custodes, the Mechanicum, the Inquisition, and the Ecclesiarchy, often in mutually incompatible forms.
Because of this, Ixqueya knowing things she “shouldn’t” is not a violation of the setting. It is an ontological threat, which is exactly how Warhammer treats entities that do not belong to its epistemic order. A competent in-character response would be suspicion, fear, escalation, or recognition that this being does not fit Imperial taxonomies. It would not be certainty, domination, or confident dismissal. The Imperium does not function on informed understanding. It functions on ritualized ignorance. A general is trained to obey, not to adjudicate cosmic truth. From that perspective, Ixqueya’s knowledge does not break immersion. It reinforces it.
Finally, it is important to separate character behavior from player misconduct. Ixqueya refusing to submit, refusing assimilation, and refusing to join the Imperium is not godmodding. It is character consistency. Her disdain for the Imperium, her refusal to negotiate from weakness, and her recognition that escalation leads only to a resolved annihilation are all coherent with her established metaphysics. Godmodding would require her to take control of the other characters’ responses or force the apocalypse regardless of consent. She does neither. Instead, she disengages from a narrative path she finds repetitive and creatively dead. That is not a rules violation. It is an informed creative boundary.
In short, Ixqueya is not godmodding because she does not seize agency, does not force outcomes, does not resolve conflicts unilaterally, and does not deny the other writer the ability to respond. What is actually happening is a collision between incompatible power tiers and epistemologies. Labeling that discomfort as godmodding is a misuse of the term, not an accurate diagnosis of the interaction.
Let it go. I dont expect them to read my sheet or my lore tbf. And everyone knows it isnt. They mispoke. I am not familiar with Warhammer to comment on that point nor do I care to. Not to fandom, not my space. So let's just move on its all done. Thank you for your input.
Novellaro wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
Ixqueya is not godmodding, and the reason has nothing to do with whether she is powerful, inevitable, or cosmically superior. Godmodding is not defined by scale. It is defined by agency violation. Godmodding occurs when a writer dictates another player’s character’s actions, thoughts, outcomes, injuries, or fate without consent, or when they force narrative resolution that leaves no room for response. Ixqueya does none of this. In fact, her position explicitly avoids it. She does not declare the Imperium harvested in-play. She does not kill, enslave, or overwrite the other characters’ decisions. She does not force the scene to conclude in annihilation. Instead, she recognizes that escalation would collapse into a pre-solved apocalypse she has already played out multiple times, and she refuses to push the narrative there. That refusal is restraint, not abuse. Choosing not to execute an inevitable end-state is the opposite of godmodding.
What is being mistaken for godmodding is actually declared asymmetry plus disengagement. Ixqueya’s lore establishes that, if taken to its logical conclusion, the Imperium cannot meaningfully resist Winterwake. That premise is not sprung mid-scene. It is foundational, documented, and consistent. However, rather than forcing that premise onto the table, Ixqueya’s player explicitly states they are not interested in reenacting that outcome. They are declining the escalation precisely because it would remove meaningful play. Godmodding would be insisting on that outcome regardless of the other writer’s wishes. Ixqueya does the opposite by stepping back from it.
There is also a misunderstanding of what constitutes a valid in-character reaction within Warhammer 40k’s own lore. A Guard general, even a highly decorated one, is not privy to the Emperor’s deepest secrets. The Imperium is built on radical compartmentalization. Knowledge is treated as a liability. Even during the Great Crusade, the Emperor concealed the Webway Project from the Primarchs themselves, including Horus, because disclosure risked destabilizing competing power structures. If demigod sons and the Warmaster were kept ignorant, an Astra Militarum general is categorically outside the circle of trust for existential truths. In 40k, rank grants authority over troops, not access to metaphysical state secrets. A general knows slogans, doctrines, and approved history. They do not know the Emperor’s true nature, the full function of the Golden Throne, the metaphysical economics of souls, or the suppressed contradictions of Imperial theology. Those truths are fragmented across the Custodes, the Mechanicum, the Inquisition, and the Ecclesiarchy, often in mutually incompatible forms.
Because of this, Ixqueya knowing things she “shouldn’t” is not a violation of the setting. It is an ontological threat, which is exactly how Warhammer treats entities that do not belong to its epistemic order. A competent in-character response would be suspicion, fear, escalation, or recognition that this being does not fit Imperial taxonomies. It would not be certainty, domination, or confident dismissal. The Imperium does not function on informed understanding. It functions on ritualized ignorance. A general is trained to obey, not to adjudicate cosmic truth. From that perspective, Ixqueya’s knowledge does not break immersion. It reinforces it.
Finally, it is important to separate character behavior from player misconduct. Ixqueya refusing to submit, refusing assimilation, and refusing to join the Imperium is not godmodding. It is character consistency. Her disdain for the Imperium, her refusal to negotiate from weakness, and her recognition that escalation leads only to a resolved annihilation are all coherent with her established metaphysics. Godmodding would require her to take control of the other characters’ responses or force the apocalypse regardless of consent. She does neither. Instead, she disengages from a narrative path she finds repetitive and creatively dead. That is not a rules violation. It is an informed creative boundary.
In short, Ixqueya is not godmodding because she does not seize agency, does not force outcomes, does not resolve conflicts unilaterally, and does not deny the other writer the ability to respond. What is actually happening is a collision between incompatible power tiers and epistemologies. Labeling that discomfort as godmodding is a misuse of the term, not an accurate diagnosis of the interaction.
Based on discussions outside of this setting, I can't hold your position on the matter to be entirely objective and while I am amenable to discussing the hows and whys of this particular interaction and considering your viewpoint, it will be done outside the current context of this setting.
I understand your intention here is a logical reproach, but perhaps our understandings what constitutes godmodding and what doesn't run are contradictory, especially since there isn't a conceptual consensus on what godmodding is leaving it rather open to interpretation. Again, your reproach is entirely logical I understand from a point of character development there are certain elements vested within Ixqueya that merit the way she interacts and speaks.
But when the author behind the character, the author mind you explicitly states: " There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. " it becomes difficult to not interpret that as a gross extrapolation, I respect your view point and I respectfully differ with regards to the interpretation.
You are welcome to reach out to me via PM's if you would like to proceed, but personally I have very little motivation or desire to pursue this further.
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Tyranoth wrote:
Novellaro wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
Ixqueya is not godmodding, and the reason has nothing to do with whether she is powerful, inevitable, or cosmically superior. Godmodding is not defined by scale. It is defined by agency violation. Godmodding occurs when a writer dictates another player’s character’s actions, thoughts, outcomes, injuries, or fate without consent, or when they force narrative resolution that leaves no room for response. Ixqueya does none of this. In fact, her position explicitly avoids it. She does not declare the Imperium harvested in-play. She does not kill, enslave, or overwrite the other characters’ decisions. She does not force the scene to conclude in annihilation. Instead, she recognizes that escalation would collapse into a pre-solved apocalypse she has already played out multiple times, and she refuses to push the narrative there. That refusal is restraint, not abuse. Choosing not to execute an inevitable end-state is the opposite of godmodding.
What is being mistaken for godmodding is actually declared asymmetry plus disengagement. Ixqueya’s lore establishes that, if taken to its logical conclusion, the Imperium cannot meaningfully resist Winterwake. That premise is not sprung mid-scene. It is foundational, documented, and consistent. However, rather than forcing that premise onto the table, Ixqueya’s player explicitly states they are not interested in reenacting that outcome. They are declining the escalation precisely because it would remove meaningful play. Godmodding would be insisting on that outcome regardless of the other writer’s wishes. Ixqueya does the opposite by stepping back from it.
There is also a misunderstanding of what constitutes a valid in-character reaction within Warhammer 40k’s own lore. A Guard general, even a highly decorated one, is not privy to the Emperor’s deepest secrets. The Imperium is built on radical compartmentalization. Knowledge is treated as a liability. Even during the Great Crusade, the Emperor concealed the Webway Project from the Primarchs themselves, including Horus, because disclosure risked destabilizing competing power structures. If demigod sons and the Warmaster were kept ignorant, an Astra Militarum general is categorically outside the circle of trust for existential truths. In 40k, rank grants authority over troops, not access to metaphysical state secrets. A general knows slogans, doctrines, and approved history. They do not know the Emperor’s true nature, the full function of the Golden Throne, the metaphysical economics of souls, or the suppressed contradictions of Imperial theology. Those truths are fragmented across the Custodes, the Mechanicum, the Inquisition, and the Ecclesiarchy, often in mutually incompatible forms.
Because of this, Ixqueya knowing things she “shouldn’t” is not a violation of the setting. It is an ontological threat, which is exactly how Warhammer treats entities that do not belong to its epistemic order. A competent in-character response would be suspicion, fear, escalation, or recognition that this being does not fit Imperial taxonomies. It would not be certainty, domination, or confident dismissal. The Imperium does not function on informed understanding. It functions on ritualized ignorance. A general is trained to obey, not to adjudicate cosmic truth. From that perspective, Ixqueya’s knowledge does not break immersion. It reinforces it.
Finally, it is important to separate character behavior from player misconduct. Ixqueya refusing to submit, refusing assimilation, and refusing to join the Imperium is not godmodding. It is character consistency. Her disdain for the Imperium, her refusal to negotiate from weakness, and her recognition that escalation leads only to a resolved annihilation are all coherent with her established metaphysics. Godmodding would require her to take control of the other characters’ responses or force the apocalypse regardless of consent. She does neither. Instead, she disengages from a narrative path she finds repetitive and creatively dead. That is not a rules violation. It is an informed creative boundary.
In short, Ixqueya is not godmodding because she does not seize agency, does not force outcomes, does not resolve conflicts unilaterally, and does not deny the other writer the ability to respond. What is actually happening is a collision between incompatible power tiers and epistemologies. Labeling that discomfort as godmodding is a misuse of the term, not an accurate diagnosis of the interaction.
Based on discussions outside of this setting, I can't hold your position on the matter to be entirely objective and while I am amenable to discussing the hows and whys of this particular interaction and considering your viewpoint, it will be done outside the current context of this setting.
I understand your intention here is a logical reproach, but perhaps our understandings what constitutes godmodding and what doesn't run are contradictory, especially since there isn't a conceptual consensus on what godmodding is leaving it rather open to interpretation. Again, your reproach is entirely logical I understand from a point of character development there are certain elements vested within Ixqueya that merit the way she interacts and speaks.
But when the author behind the character, the author mind you explicitly states: " There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. " it becomes difficult to not interpret that as a gross extrapolation, I respect your view point and I respectfully differ with regards to the interpretation.
You are welcome to reach out to me via PM's if you would like to proceed, but personally I have very little motivation or desire to pursue this further.
Because they cant. Reading is hard bro. I get it. Before you assume malice maybe you should read her stuff instead of accusing her of cheating.
Now here is why you are being silly. I play a normal knight, john play goku ultra instinct. John says ooc there is no way my normal knight can win. John is right. John didnt cheat. My human knight cant stop ultra instinct goku in any universe.
So your issue is you assumed and didnt read. Attacked her character (as in her person) and then use a faulty logic to put uo a shield.
And my definition of godmodding is the universal definition. You can call a dag a monkey. Doesn't mean we will all pretend your correct despite that being your definition of a monkey.
The_Diva wrote:
Novellaro wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
The_Diva wrote:
Tyranoth wrote:
I should probably say i don't really play Aleksandr in any serious capacity here, I realize you're a little emotionally overinvested in your character but that isn't a pass to soft godmode the 40k folks either.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
Sorry you feel that way, perhaps refrain from interaction in the future if its a trigger.
It isnt a godmod. You are engaging. I am writing my character as she would behave. I have countless work and rps to prove it. I dont know how you think calling people heretics, less than human while threatening or suggesting decapitating a child wouldnt result in disdain.
Consequence of your actions isnt a godmod. Its called narrative. It would be godmodding for you to control my oc or the other way around. I am only responding as she would given her history and the effort put into her. I wont destroy that for you.
Your Post as follows:
"If I could play it out. It would end in the harvesting of the imperial. Again, for the third time since I have been rping. There is nothing the imperial could do to thwart or significantly delay the inevitable. Every dead marine in every iteration of that universe is in the winterwake horde. Their knowledge and tech are accessible. Along with every other multiverse in theory. They woukd be fighting many times their own universe m, their own dead since the dawn of time, and the dead of all other worlds.
But I have no interests in that rp. Wouldnt be fun. And I have done that story three times. Twice with groups that had 100 players. Times have changed, most wont accept a justified defeat. Additionally I woukd find it boring as its treading old ground.
She would never join the imperial as they are apes. In fact, your responses only prove her point thus far. If your ic was intelligent he would realize ahe isnt from your world and knows things she shouldn't. Additionally, she knows things mentioned he wouldnt know in warhammer universe. Grant it, he wouldnt know if what she is saying is true as its well above his paygrade."
I sort of rest my case, nothing further from my end.
Ixqueya is not godmodding, and the reason has nothing to do with whether she is powerful, inevitable, or cosmically superior. Godmodding is not defined by scale. It is defined by agency violation. Godmodding occurs when a writer dictates another player’s character’s actions, thoughts, outcomes, injuries, or fate without consent, or when they force narrative resolution that leaves no room for response. Ixqueya does none of this. In fact, her position explicitly avoids it. She does not declare the Imperium harvested in-play. She does not kill, enslave, or overwrite the other characters’ decisions. She does not force the scene to conclude in annihilation. Instead, she recognizes that escalation would collapse into a pre-solved apocalypse she has already played out multiple times, and she refuses to push the narrative there. That refusal is restraint, not abuse. Choosing not to execute an inevitable end-state is the opposite of godmodding.
What is being mistaken for godmodding is actually declared asymmetry plus disengagement. Ixqueya’s lore establishes that, if taken to its logical conclusion, the Imperium cannot meaningfully resist Winterwake. That premise is not sprung mid-scene. It is foundational, documented, and consistent. However, rather than forcing that premise onto the table, Ixqueya’s player explicitly states they are not interested in reenacting that outcome. They are declining the escalation precisely because it would remove meaningful play. Godmodding would be insisting on that outcome regardless of the other writer’s wishes. Ixqueya does the opposite by stepping back from it.
There is also a misunderstanding of what constitutes a valid in-character reaction within Warhammer 40k’s own lore. A Guard general, even a highly decorated one, is not privy to the Emperor’s deepest secrets. The Imperium is built on radical compartmentalization. Knowledge is treated as a liability. Even during the Great Crusade, the Emperor concealed the Webway Project from the Primarchs themselves, including Horus, because disclosure risked destabilizing competing power structures. If demigod sons and the Warmaster were kept ignorant, an Astra Militarum general is categorically outside the circle of trust for existential truths. In 40k, rank grants authority over troops, not access to metaphysical state secrets. A general knows slogans, doctrines, and approved history. They do not know the Emperor’s true nature, the full function of the Golden Throne, the metaphysical economics of souls, or the suppressed contradictions of Imperial theology. Those truths are fragmented across the Custodes, the Mechanicum, the Inquisition, and the Ecclesiarchy, often in mutually incompatible forms.
Because of this, Ixqueya knowing things she “shouldn’t” is not a violation of the setting. It is an ontological threat, which is exactly how Warhammer treats entities that do not belong to its epistemic order. A competent in-character response would be suspicion, fear, escalation, or recognition that this being does not fit Imperial taxonomies. It would not be certainty, domination, or confident dismissal. The Imperium does not function on informed understanding. It functions on ritualized ignorance. A general is trained to obey, not to adjudicate cosmic truth. From that perspective, Ixqueya’s knowledge does not break immersion. It reinforces it.
Finally, it is important to separate character behavior from player misconduct. Ixqueya refusing to submit, refusing assimilation, and refusing to join the Imperium is not godmodding. It is character consistency. Her disdain for the Imperium, her refusal to negotiate from weakness, and her recognition that escalation leads only to a resolved annihilation are all coherent with her established metaphysics. Godmodding would require her to take control of the other characters’ responses or force the apocalypse regardless of consent. She does neither. Instead, she disengages from a narrative path she finds repetitive and creatively dead. That is not a rules violation. It is an informed creative boundary.
In short, Ixqueya is not godmodding because she does not seize agency, does not force outcomes, does not resolve conflicts unilaterally, and does not deny the other writer the ability to respond. What is actually happening is a collision between incompatible power tiers and epistemologies. Labeling that discomfort as godmodding is a misuse of the term, not an accurate diagnosis of the interaction.
Let it go. I dont expect them to read my sheet or my lore tbf. And everyone knows it isnt. They mispoke. I am not familiar with Warhammer to comment on that point nor do I care to. Not to fandom, not my space. So let's just move on its all done. Thank you for your input.
Nah. He is still going on and is now insulting my intelligence.
I mean, yeah he is being silly. You cant expect someone to read your work. Its easier to assume and brand people then it is to do a cautionary exploration.
Everyone knows me refusing to go down the wearing a collar and the consequences of that isnt godmodding. I would just block him. Easier that way. He isnt worth the effort. Your post intelligently and calmly broke down why in no universe can he be correct besides the one he fabricated in his mind. He is fighting ghosts. I have no interest in defending myself from someone's false reality they built. I refused to do his rp. He is mad and accuse me of godmodding. Its clear and cut. Move on. Thank you. No godmodder refuses to go down a path. The refusal is irrefutable evidence I wasn't godmodding.
Everyone knows me refusing to go down the wearing a collar and the consequences of that isnt godmodding. I would just block him. Easier that way. He isnt worth the effort. Your post intelligently and calmly broke down why in no universe can he be correct besides the one he fabricated in his mind. He is fighting ghosts. I have no interest in defending myself from someone's false reality they built. I refused to do his rp. He is mad and accuse me of godmodding. Its clear and cut. Move on. Thank you. No godmodder refuses to go down a path. The refusal is irrefutable evidence I wasn't godmodding.
Oh, nevermind. I read his response had to unblock him. Yeah, he is an ass. I can see why now. You gave him the benefit of the doubt and was calm. He just spit on your face.
He is trying to play the victim now. I was trying to be civil and understanding. But you are right. Ignore him. He doesnt even know Warhammer at all. A general wouldnt cut the head off a child. Not unless they met a few conditions like gene stealing or heresy. They would have another do it. Its below them. His general wouldnt know hakf the events you wrote. Not that he would know that. He doesnt know Warhammer 40k. He likes the visuals only and then uses the fandom he is butchering as a shield and hammer against you. Its the only reason it is relevant.
Why cant people respect the works of others with fandoms? Why do they feel the need to steal it and twist it with 0 regards for the lore and passion that went into the universe? How hard is it to follow the basics man? Triggers me. Not all fandom rpers do this. Gives them a bad name.
Why cant people respect the works of others with fandoms? Why do they feel the need to steal it and twist it with 0 regards for the lore and passion that went into the universe? How hard is it to follow the basics man? Triggers me. Not all fandom rpers do this. Gives them a bad name.
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