Moonbiter wrote:
CrypticStardust wrote:
Wouldn't posting to get the bots off the main page make them a bit harder to spot, thus harder to report and get rid of?
Just gonna stuff in here, there's ways to express yourself respectfully.
We ALL are entitled to expression of our opinions, but things like guilt tripping and waving fingers in people's place who're not to blame for a situation and can only manage it to the best of their ability, just ain't it.
Please practice compassion for people even when you're frustrated with them. We all have our own lives to face. (Except spammers, of course, there are no lives there.)
We ALL are entitled to expression of our opinions, but things like guilt tripping and waving fingers in people's place who're not to blame for a situation and can only manage it to the best of their ability, just ain't it.
Please practice compassion for people even when you're frustrated with them. We all have our own lives to face. (Except spammers, of course, there are no lives there.)
Yes, Four is right, it's all about patience.
I know it's difficult when you see all the time lingering bots and it's quickly done to get rid of them on the main page. I can totally understand Moonbiter being frustrated, I myself am same. I just before writing this message, signaled two new ones (well less than an hour old) and pushed one into oblivion by making an anti-bot message on an introduction post (right under my original welcoming message).
We don't know what is happening behind the scenes or how more or less our moderators are online.
What I do is (to get rid of frustration) make a game out of it. My little doe gets from prey species into predator, bothunter on duty and every bot she sees is signaled illico backstage, with a funny little phrase for our mods, makes it easier to accept. Even if that one bot nestles a bit longer, I know that it will be just eradicated, stomped, crushed, smashed, kicked or even dou-butted (with a devilish grin).
Resistance is futile!
Do whatever you want with this
I know it's difficult when you see all the time lingering bots and it's quickly done to get rid of them on the main page. I can totally understand Moonbiter being frustrated, I myself am same. I just before writing this message, signaled two new ones (well less than an hour old) and pushed one into oblivion by making an anti-bot message on an introduction post (right under my original welcoming message).
We don't know what is happening behind the scenes or how more or less our moderators are online.
What I do is (to get rid of frustration) make a game out of it. My little doe gets from prey species into predator, bothunter on duty and every bot she sees is signaled illico backstage, with a funny little phrase for our mods, makes it easier to accept. Even if that one bot nestles a bit longer, I know that it will be just eradicated, stomped, crushed, smashed, kicked or even dou-butted (with a devilish grin).
Resistance is futile!
Do whatever you want with this
I need Bot-Assassin Lizbeth art. Por favor, madamme.
In the Short Story Contest
Thanks Milk, makes me laugh
Thanks Milk, makes me laugh
Four wrote:
Just gonna stuff in here, there's ways to express yourself respectfully.
We ALL are entitled to expression of our opinions, but things like guilt tripping and waving fingers in people's place who're not to blame for a situation and can only manage it to the best of their ability, just ain't it.
Please practice compassion for people even when you're frustrated with them. We all have our own lives to face. (Except spammers, of course, there are no lives there.)
We ALL are entitled to expression of our opinions, but things like guilt tripping and waving fingers in people's place who're not to blame for a situation and can only manage it to the best of their ability, just ain't it.
Please practice compassion for people even when you're frustrated with them. We all have our own lives to face. (Except spammers, of course, there are no lives there.)
Moonbiter wrote:
I find it odd that I reported a few spam posts over 12 hours ago yet they all still remain. 
I get mods being volunteers and have lives and all, but the longer these things are up, the
more the spammers achieve. It is really looking bad. This probably isn't the place to complain.
Anyway, just needed to vent. Thinking of stepping back into the moon shadows after this month.
I get mods being volunteers and have lives and all, but the longer these things are up, the
more the spammers achieve. It is really looking bad. This probably isn't the place to complain.
Anyway, just needed to vent. Thinking of stepping back into the moon shadows after this month.
This month has been *really* tough on the mod team. Multiples of us are undergoing some pretty heavy medical stuff right now. I myself am going through cancer treatment that started a few days after the end of Epic Week, and recovering from (also cancer related) surgery. I am sorry that this has resulted in slower spam cleanup than usual, but I'd like to ask for some grace. I have a second, larger surgery next Tuesday. As much as I adore the RPR, instantly responding to spam isn't top of my list for the next couple of weeks. You don't need to report it if that makes you frustrated.
I hope your second surgery goes smoothly, Kim! Wishing good health towards ya’ll on the mod team 
(Also- even if it’s not as fast as before, you’re still handling bots better than some larger platforms LOL)
(Also- even if it’s not as fast as before, you’re still handling bots better than some larger platforms LOL)
I don't know if you shared that before publicly, Kim, but thank you for being transparent, as always. I feel like you always try to tell us what you can even when it is uncomfortable.
I had no idea.
I hope your surgeries and continued healing and journey afterwards go best case scenario. đź’ś
I had no idea.
I hope your surgeries and continued healing and journey afterwards go best case scenario. đź’ś
Four wrote:
I don't know if you shared that before publicly, Kim, but thank you for being transparent, as always. I feel like you always try to tell us what you can even when it is uncomfortable.
You are correct, I haven't really made any announcements. A few small mentions in profile statuses now and again, but I was trying not to be too alarmist, and I really wanted to make sure everyone had as happy an Epic Week as I could provide.
My prognosis is good. I am entirely expected to live, once I slog through the requisite toll of suffering, so no one worry about that.
Definitely not the summer I had wanted or planned on, though!
Kim wrote:
Moonbiter wrote:
I find it odd that I reported a few spam posts over 12 hours ago yet they all still remain.
I get mods being volunteers and have lives and all, but the longer these things are up, the
more the spammers achieve. It is really looking bad. This probably isn't the place to complain.
Anyway, just needed to vent. Thinking of stepping back into the moon shadows after this month.
I get mods being volunteers and have lives and all, but the longer these things are up, the
more the spammers achieve. It is really looking bad. This probably isn't the place to complain.
Anyway, just needed to vent. Thinking of stepping back into the moon shadows after this month.
This month has been *really* tough on the mod team. Multiples of us are undergoing some pretty heavy medical stuff right now. I myself am going through cancer treatment that started a few days after the end of Epic Week, and recovering from (also cancer related) surgery. I am sorry that this has resulted in slower spam cleanup than usual, but I'd like to ask for some grace. I have a second, larger surgery next Tuesday. As much as I adore the RPR, instantly responding to spam isn't top of my list for the next couple of weeks. You don't need to report it if that makes you frustrated.
Kim wrote:
Four wrote:
I don't know if you shared that before publicly, Kim, but thank you for being transparent, as always. I feel like you always try to tell us what you can even when it is uncomfortable.
You are correct, I haven't really made any announcements. A few small mentions in profile statuses now and again, but I was trying not to be too alarmist, and I really wanted to make sure everyone had as happy an Epic Week as I could provide.
My prognosis is good. I am entirely expected to live, once I slog through the requisite toll of suffering, so no one worry about that.
Definitely not the summer I had wanted or planned on, though!
Oh dear. I do hope you and the others going through this come through it all well. Didn't realise there was so much going on with you and the mods.
I didn't mean to sound ungrateful, but it seemed a rather long time before those spam ads were removed and it gave the forum a very bad look. My apologies of I came across harsh. Was only wanting to keep the public forums clean.
Friend, with love, you were extremely harsh.
This "if they love the community" thing sucks to read when I literally delayed my own cancer treatment specifically to make sure I could put on a good epic week for this community.
There's literal life or death stuff going on for a bunch of us, and the others have kids, jobs, or both, and are trying to pick up the slack for multiple missing people where they can. We're just not in a position to have a whole "morning janitorial rotation" right now. It's not about not loving or caring. I realize you're not a psychic, and you yourself said you realize that mods have lives. Sometimes the definition of life includes severe turbulence, and perfect volunteerism just is not possible round the clock for years on end.
We very much need to put out a call for new mods to help out. That we haven't is on me -- that process requires a burst of energy to solicit and then review applicants, onboard and train folks, etc. By the time I realized how short staffed we were about to be, it was past the point that I could put out that energy. I can't ethically just grab some folks and give them access to records or powers without proper vetting and training. I just don't have the energy to do even the first step of that right now. So we're kind of limping along shorthanded until I'm a little more on my feet. =/
The posts you were making to "push down spam" included repeated mentions of the mods failing, that you're wasting your time trying to help out, the fact that there was spam that needed pushing down, and some pretty not nice stuff like the above with telling folks to keep their opinions to themselves. All of that is also not a great look for the community or the forums.
I don't mean to put you on blast. We're having this conversation in public because the complaints were made publicly, and they deserve a response.
I am sorry that it wasn't as fast as it has been. I also hate when spam survives more than a few seconds. I completely understand that it was frustrating, that it sucks, and that spam is yucky.
But I also really hope this is a learning moment about assuming other people's motivations or priorities, and practicing curiosity about other people's behaviors. Especially when that behavior has a sudden change, like going from rapid response to slower.
Moonbiter wrote:
If they love the community and are in a position to keep the public-facing part of the site clean, you’d think it would be done quickly.
There's literal life or death stuff going on for a bunch of us, and the others have kids, jobs, or both, and are trying to pick up the slack for multiple missing people where they can. We're just not in a position to have a whole "morning janitorial rotation" right now. It's not about not loving or caring. I realize you're not a psychic, and you yourself said you realize that mods have lives. Sometimes the definition of life includes severe turbulence, and perfect volunteerism just is not possible round the clock for years on end.
We very much need to put out a call for new mods to help out. That we haven't is on me -- that process requires a burst of energy to solicit and then review applicants, onboard and train folks, etc. By the time I realized how short staffed we were about to be, it was past the point that I could put out that energy. I can't ethically just grab some folks and give them access to records or powers without proper vetting and training. I just don't have the energy to do even the first step of that right now. So we're kind of limping along shorthanded until I'm a little more on my feet. =/
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As for your opinion… I explained I was posting here to get the spam threads off the main forum page to keep it clean-looking, so you can keep it. *shrug*
The posts you were making to "push down spam" included repeated mentions of the mods failing, that you're wasting your time trying to help out, the fact that there was spam that needed pushing down, and some pretty not nice stuff like the above with telling folks to keep their opinions to themselves. All of that is also not a great look for the community or the forums.
I don't mean to put you on blast. We're having this conversation in public because the complaints were made publicly, and they deserve a response.
I am sorry that it wasn't as fast as it has been. I also hate when spam survives more than a few seconds. I completely understand that it was frustrating, that it sucks, and that spam is yucky.
But I also really hope this is a learning moment about assuming other people's motivations or priorities, and practicing curiosity about other people's behaviors. Especially when that behavior has a sudden change, like going from rapid response to slower.
Kim wrote:
Friend, with love, you were extremely harsh.
This "if they love the community" thing sucks to read when I literally delayed my own cancer treatment specifically to make sure I could put on a good epic week for this community.
There's literal life or death stuff going on for a bunch of us, and the others have kids, jobs, or both, and are trying to pick up the slack for multiple missing people where they can. We're just not in a position to have a whole "morning janitorial rotation" right now. It's not about not loving or caring. I realize you're not a psychic, and you yourself said you realize that mods have lives. Sometimes the definition of life includes severe turbulence, and perfect volunteerism just is not possible round the clock for years on end.
We very much need to put out a call for new mods to help out. That we haven't is on me -- that process requires a burst of energy to solicit and then review applicants, onboard and train folks, etc. By the time I realized how short staffed we were about to be, it was past the point that I could put out that energy. I can't ethically just grab some folks and give them access to records or powers without proper vetting and training. I just don't have the energy to do even the first step of that right now. So we're kind of limping along shorthanded until I'm a little more on my feet. =/
The posts you were making to "push down spam" included repeated mentions of the mods failing, that you're wasting your time trying to help out, the fact that there was spam that needed pushing down, and some pretty not nice stuff like the above with telling folks to keep their opinions to themselves. All of that is also not a great look for the community or the forums.
I don't mean to put you on blast. We're having this conversation in public because the complaints were made publicly, and they deserve a response.
I am sorry that it wasn't as fast as it has been. I also hate when spam survives more than a few seconds. I completely understand that it was frustrating, that it sucks, and that spam is yucky.
But I also really hope this is a learning moment about assuming other people's motivations or priorities, and practicing curiosity about other people's behaviors. Especially when that behavior has a sudden change, like going from rapid response to slower.
Moonbiter wrote:
If they love the community and are in a position to keep the public-facing part of the site clean, you’d think it would be done quickly.
There's literal life or death stuff going on for a bunch of us, and the others have kids, jobs, or both, and are trying to pick up the slack for multiple missing people where they can. We're just not in a position to have a whole "morning janitorial rotation" right now. It's not about not loving or caring. I realize you're not a psychic, and you yourself said you realize that mods have lives. Sometimes the definition of life includes severe turbulence, and perfect volunteerism just is not possible round the clock for years on end.
We very much need to put out a call for new mods to help out. That we haven't is on me -- that process requires a burst of energy to solicit and then review applicants, onboard and train folks, etc. By the time I realized how short staffed we were about to be, it was past the point that I could put out that energy. I can't ethically just grab some folks and give them access to records or powers without proper vetting and training. I just don't have the energy to do even the first step of that right now. So we're kind of limping along shorthanded until I'm a little more on my feet. =/
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As for your opinion… I explained I was posting here to get the spam threads off the main forum page to keep it clean-looking, so you can keep it. *shrug*
The posts you were making to "push down spam" included repeated mentions of the mods failing, that you're wasting your time trying to help out, the fact that there was spam that needed pushing down, and some pretty not nice stuff like the above with telling folks to keep their opinions to themselves. All of that is also not a great look for the community or the forums.
I don't mean to put you on blast. We're having this conversation in public because the complaints were made publicly, and they deserve a response.
I am sorry that it wasn't as fast as it has been. I also hate when spam survives more than a few seconds. I completely understand that it was frustrating, that it sucks, and that spam is yucky.
But I also really hope this is a learning moment about assuming other people's motivations or priorities, and practicing curiosity about other people's behaviors. Especially when that behavior has a sudden change, like going from rapid response to slower.
My apologies. I'll show myself out.
Slight change in subject
Wow I forgot I had the chat open and hit enter lol sorry
BUT! Kinda related but a drift. I also feel like spam everywhere has gotten kind of out of control? I've gotten a lot more phone calls lately and I don't recall putting my phone number down for anything extra. I've gotten a lot more 'security alerts' and real ones so I've had to be careful about that. I don't know mann
Four wrote:
BUT! Kinda related but a drift. I also feel like spam everywhere has gotten kind of out of control? I've gotten a lot more phone calls lately and I don't recall putting my phone number down for anything extra.
Yes, my phone is going off all day every day. And OMG TEXT spam. I get no joke 2-10 texts offering me predatory loans every day.
Huh? What kind of spam? No one calls me on the phone or sends me some text spam… I get that usual mail spam, but those are like 95% in spam folder. Sorry, can’t help you with that. The only thing I did is get rid of a telephone number, you know the fix line, the one coming out of the wall and any TV, I don’t have a TV set at home. 🤗
Lizbeth Redwood wrote:
Huh? What kind of spam? No one calls me on the phone or sends me some text spam… I get that usual mail spam, but those are like 95% in spam folder. Sorry, can’t help you with that. The only thing I did is get rid of a telephone number, you know the fix line, the one coming out of the wall and any TV, I don’t have a TV set at home. 🤗
Maybe your country has better anti-spam laws regarding phones?
I luckily don't have it nearly as bad as some of you, but... I get the same spam call close to every single week day. Actually, I've blocked the number(s), so I only get a voicemail...
Side-note: Nobody should be allowed to leave a voicemail after I've blocked their number. Why is this a thing?
Anyway, the spammers want to talk to James soooo bad... (I am not James. I don't know a James.)
Side-note: Nobody should be allowed to leave a voicemail after I've blocked their number. Why is this a thing?
Anyway, the spammers want to talk to James soooo bad... (I am not James. I don't know a James.)